Meeting Summary - 10/18/24 WMWG Meeting

Grid Monitor AI | Posted 10/18/2024

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1 - Antitrust Admonition - Blake Holt

2 - Questions on Standing Reports - Blake Holt

  • No questions were raised about the standing reports.

3 - Notice on Open Action Items - Blake Holt

  • Blake Holt highlighted several stagnant open action items assigned to WMWG and proposed removing them unless objections are raised.
  • The group seeks feedback by next month's meeting to recommend retaining or removing these action items.
  • The first item on reviewing EPA regulations remains due to recent Supreme Court decisions.
  • Item two  on reviewing wholesale market queues for scarcity pricing could be struck; ERCOT's new RTC may address this.
  • The minimum threshold to post WSL information action was deemed potentially obsolete by new NPRR461 initiatives.
  • Item to increase settlement granularity to 15-minute intervals was briefly mentioned.
  • Ryan King suggested some action items may be redundant due to current or planned measures and updates.
  • Amanda Frazier proposed redlining the document for the next meeting, reflecting suggested changes.

4 - Pricing Impacts of LDL Override Decisions made during 4/8 Eclipse - ERCOT Staff

PricingImpactsofLDLOverride_r1.pdf

  • Cory Carswell, an engineer with ERCOT, presented an analysis on pricing impacts from LDL overrides during the April 8 solar eclipse.
  • ERCOT implemented several precautionary measures, including procuring an additional gigawatt of non-spin ancillary services, issuing LDL overrides to coal resources, and committing resources through the HR process.
  • The analysis focused on the net impact to energy value during the LDL override period, finding a minimal total net impact of approximately $70,000, primarily in the Houston load zone.
  • Marginal system cost changes, resource mix, and congestion costs between original and rerun scenarios showed minor variances.
  • Original scenarios saw increased coal generation due to LDL overrides; without them, natural gas replaced coal generation with minimal overall resource mix change.
  • Congestion cost impact was minimal, with consistent constraint management across the system observed.
  • Net energy value impacts were most notable in the Houston load zone but remained minimal overall.
  • Questions addressed involved the minimal RDPA run effects corroborating the findings.

5 - NPRR1202, Refundable Deposit of Large Load Interconnection Studies - NPRR1202 Commenters

  • NPRR1202 has been inactive for a while, but recently received many comments.
  • The NPRR is technically on hold as the LFLTF is dormant.

5.1 - Longhorn Power Comments - Bob Wittmeyer

  • Bob Wittmeyer discussed changes to the proposal to treat large loads and generators equally and eliminate refundable deposits for a maintenance fee.
  • The goal is to speed up the process of connecting generation and load to the ERCOT system by addressing current bottlenecks.
  • There is a significant backlog of projects partly due to a shortage of integration engineers at ERCOT.
  • Wittmeyer suggests building a pool of funds to hire additional staff and expedite projects, without preferential treatment for any entity.
  • Efforts are being made to ensure new fees are not passed onto residential or small commercial customers.
  • Wittmeyer is seeking feedback on other systems impacted by new connections and ways to support funding shortages.
  • ERCOT CFO Richard Schiele clarified that most of ERCOT’s operations are funded by a system administration fee, and interconnection fees cover specific operational costs.
  • Discussion touched on how funding decisions are made by ERCOT and approved by the PUC.
  • Further comments were discussed in regard to NPRR1202 and its implications, with a call for emails on systems affected.

5.2 - ERCOT Comments - Bill Blevins & Doug Fohn

  • ERCOT highlighted actions taken to address issues from the large load task force.
  • A new fee system for large loads has been proposed to clean up the project queue.
  • Rules have been introduced in PGRR115 to remove inactive projects if no interconnection agreement is reached within 180 days.
  • ERCOT has added a team and contractors to handle the increase in workload related to large loads.
  • A recurring fee is under consideration, but further rules are needed first to assess its necessity.
  • Comments were generally supportive of NPRR and the introduction of fees over deposits.
  • There were questions and suggestions regarding where collected fees would be applied.
  • Concerns were raised about fee utilization and ERCOT's ability to use additional funds for staffing.
  • An upfront fee was supported as a means to filter speculative projects.
  • Discussion acknowledged ERCOT's limitations due to budget constraints defined by the commission.
  • Comments concluded with acknowledgment of the necessity to expedite interconnections to benefit consumers.

6 - NPRR1229, RTM CMP Energy Payment – Tentative Discussion - Lucas Turner

  • STEC is preparing additional comments on NPRR1229.
  • Discussion postponed to next month.
  • No discussion on this item today.

7 - NPRR1235, Dispatchable Reliability Reserve Service – Group notice that discussion is moving to SAWG - Blake Holt

  • NPRR1235 was previously discussed at WMS last month.
  • Current discussions on NPRR1235 have been moved to SAWG.
  • Group is informed to be ready to handle specific tasks as NPRR1235 progresses.

8 - NPRR1241, Firm Fuel Supply Service FFSS Availability and Hourly Standby Fee - Katie Rich

  • Discussion on NPRR1241 regarding firm fuel supply service availability and hourly standby fee.
  • Katie Rich updated that discussions with stakeholders are ongoing.
  • New language is being developed to create a more linear curve for setting penalties and clawbacks.
  • Draft language is being prepared to share with stakeholders before the next meeting.
  • Ino suggests holding comments until the new language is submitted by Katie.

9 - Group Discussion on CARD Allocation Methods - WMWG Participants

  • Recap of proposed CARD allocation methods: IMM's average over 500 peak demand hours per month, Georgetown's use of last year's 4-CP averages, Luminant's top 60-120 hours per month approach.
  • Andrew Reimers raised concerns about Shams Siddiqi’s proposal potentially leading to CARD exceeding 4-CP, possibly incentivizing consumption during intervals.
  • Bob Wittmeyer questioned the logic of tying CARD revenue, derived from congestion due to lack of transmission, to those who pay for transmission.
  • Shams argued that the allocation is a netting process to minimize market distortion.
  • Dave Maggio presented an analysis showing potential disparities in CARD allocation, particularly in the western load zone.
  • There was general support for Shams' approach as it aligns costs with those paying transmission costs.
  • Concerns were shared about timing and lag issues with 4CP-based allocations.
  • Some participants prefer Luminant's method due to its balance of complexity and seasonality preservation.
  • There was discussion about the potential impact of new loads and deviations in current allocation share.
  • Concerns were raised about changing the summer months allocation method due to the strong 4-CP signals.
  • Participants emphasized the need for a clear methodology that doesn't incentivize adverse behavior.

Next Steps

  • Consider drafting an NPRR based on the discussions.
  • Bill Barnes suggested presenting the discussion outcomes and options to WMS for a vote.
  • Formal concept vote at WMS to direct subsequent protocol language development.
  • Further collaboration with ERCOT staff to finalize proposals.

10 - Other Business - Blake Holt

  • The next ERCOT meeting is scheduled for November 11.
  • David Detelich raised concerns about NPRR1253 related to charging load and load signals.
  • David is uncertain if NPRR1253 solves the issue of mismatches in load signals, particularly concerning the 4-CP signal.
  • There were questions about whether ERCOT's load forecast incorporates feedback loops that exclude WSL or charging load.
  • The discussion on NPRR1253 remains tabled at PRS; comments are awaited from ERCOT.
  • A suggestion was made to potentially refer questions to a working group for further exploration.
  • Dave Maggio and others discussed the need for more education on how load forecasting and charging loads from energy storage resources are incorporated.
  • It was agreed to possibly provide educational materials at a future meeting regarding load forecasting.

11 - Adjourn - Blake Holt

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