Meeting Summary - 04/03/2025 ROS Meeting
Grid Monitor AI | Posted 04/03/2025

▶️1 - Antitrust Admonition
▶️2 - Agenda Review
▶️3 - Approval of ROS Meeting Minutes (Possible Vote)
▶️3.1 - March 6, 2025
- Motion to approve March 6, 2025 meeting minutes added to the combo ballot.
▶️4 - Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) Update
- Approval of Real Time Cooptimization NPRRs
- NPRR1268 was approved with IMM's comments.
- NPRR1269 was approved with TCPA comments.
- NPRR1270 was approved as filed.
- Voting Items Approval
- NOGGR274 related to eliminating the VDI approved.
- PGRR115 related to NPRR1234 with large load interconnection approved after significant discussion on interconnection load limit timing, set to mid-April, and concerns about isolating colocated load.
- PGRR119 related to stability constraint modeling assumptions approved.
- MDRPOC Change Discussions
- Discussions moved to WMS for alternative proposal development.
- Encouragement to attend next WMS meeting for those interested.
▶️5 - ROS Goals/Strategic Objectives (Possible Vote)
- Motion to approve the 2025 ROS strategic objectives as presented added to the combo ballot.
- Goals and objectives have been condensed, much of the original wording retained.
- No comments or questions from members, suggesting consensus on the proposed document.
- Intent to minimize the frequency of revisions, aiming for stability and longevity of the document.
▶️6 - ERCOT Reports - 9:45 a.m.
▶️6.1 - Operations Report
February-2025-ERCOT-Operations-Report-Public.pdf
- Peak demand in February was 80,525 MW, occurring on February 20.
- Six frequency events were all due to unit trips; frequency was restored in a few minutes.
- No ECRS or RRS events were reported.
- One OCN and three advisories issued, with advisories related to extreme cold weather or TSAT unavailability.
- One watch was issued for extreme cold weather.
- Record solar megawatt penetration occurred on February 28.
- 105 RUC commitments and several congestion events via GTCs were noted.
- Discussion about improving visibility on RUC reasons concerning GTC congestion, anticipated to be addressed in future WMS meetings.
- Possibility discussed of including large load trip performance and its impact on frequency in future operations reports.
▶️6.2 - System Planning Report
- No additional highlights were reported for this month's system planning report.
- No questions were raised by the attendees.
▶️6.3 - Generic Transmission Constraint (GTC) Update
06.-GTCUpdate_ROS_April2025.pdf
- Two GTC updates discussed: Kinney GTC and Panhandle GTC.
- Kinney GTC update: Based on 2025 Q1 QSA study. Minor changes; interface unchanged and no stability constraint for no product conditions.
- Updates to GTC limits for priority conditions; minor overall update.
- Kinney GTC update effective 04/02/2025.
- Updated GTC methodology document available on MIS.
- Panhandle GTC update: Based on study with additional generation resources in and near the Panhandle.
- Interface definition update to align with topology changes. Cutting stations on interface lines require updates.
- Overall GTC limit increase for outage and no problem conditions.
- Discussion with Jackson Guo about the contradiction between increased GTC limits and voltage stability issues suggested in a previous study.
- Explanation provided: Additional generation, including batteries, in the Panhandle and nearby areas provide reactive power support, allowing GTC limit increase.
- Questions and further clarifications addressed about GTC updates.
▶️7 - New Protocol Revision Subcommittee (PRS) Referrals (Vote)
▶️7.1 - NPRR1272, Voltage Support at Private Use Networks
- Motion to request PRS continue to table NPRR1272 for further review by PLWG and VPWG added to the combo ballot.
- NPRR1272 was voluntarily taken up and referred to the PLWG and Voltage Profile Working Group.
- Both groups have reviewed it and requested more time; further discussion may occur at the May ROS meeting.
- No immediate actions required beyond maintaining the topic as tabled until further notice.
- Erin Wasik-Gutierrez from ERCOT Market Rules suggests submitting comments to request PRS continue to table the item, for formal referral to PLWG and VPWG.
- Clarification was made that for NPRR1272, there was no need for a separate ballot as initially considered.
- The group acknowledges the item is still under PRS's purview, and they would recommend further action as discussions continue within working groups.
▶️7.2 - NPRR1274, RPG Estimated Capital Cost Thresholds of Proposed Transmission Projects
- Motion to request PRS continue to table NPRR1274 for further review by PLWG added to the combo ballot.
- NPRR1274 is new and aims to adjust capital cost thresholds for RPG project submissions.
- ERCOT proposes a 35% increase in capital cost based on inflationary data.
- A few sections in the documentation have been updated to include these changes.
- In 2025, four projects would have been recategorized from Tier 1 to Tier 3.
- No adjustments were noted for Tier 2 projects, while some Tier 3 projects would move to Tier 4.
- Further historical data would require additional time to compile.
- The change applies to projects submitted after the new threshold's effective date; projects under evaluation will retain their current classification.
- The last cost threshold adjustment was in June 2018.
- The proposal will be tabled and referred to PLWG for further review.
▶️8 - NPRR1278, Establishing Advanced Grid Support Service as an Ancillary Service (Waive Notice - Possible Vote)
- NPRR1278 proposal aims to create an advanced grid support service as an ancillary service, inspired by how Black Start works.
- The service will provide yearly contracts to enhance ERCOT's reliability requirements, particularly involving energy storage and IBRs.
- Key aspects include allowing various IBRs to participate and offering a dynamic ancillary service that can evolve with the grid's needs.
- Discussion on whether the proposal should be an ancillary service or a standard.
- No current position from the PUC on the matter was noted.
- Concerns raised on the compensation for conventional generators versus IBRs providing similar services.
- The proposal requires further clarification on the technical and cost implications, with some suggesting it might incur a cost.
- Potential referral to working groups like OWG and PDCWG for deeper technical discussions.
▶️9 - ROS Revision Requests (Vote) - 10:30 a.m.
▶️9.1 - NOGRR265, Related to NPRR1238, Voluntary Registration of Loads with Curtailable Load Capabilities
- NOGRR265 discussion was deferred until May.
- No action required at the current meeting.
▶️9.2 - NOGRR275, Eliminate Scheduling Center Requirements for QSEs That Are Not WAN Participants
- Motion to recommend approval of NOGRR275 as revised by ROS added to the combo ballot.
- Katherine Gross mentioned that NOGRR275 is updating the operating guide, aligning with protocol language approved last year in NPRR1206.
- This change is to incorporate missed edits from NPRR1206 and align the operating guide with current protocol language.
- Ted Hailu clarified the noncontroversial nature of changes, ensuring alignment with protocols and elimination of a reference in the operating guide regarding scheduling centers.
- Kristin Cook from Southern Power expressed support for the changes, noting advantages for non-WAN participant QSEs.
- A minor red line edit was suggested by Kristin Cook to add further clarification to the control or operation center responsibilities.
- The suggested edit was accepted, and the decision was made to include this change in the combo ballot with the desktop edit noted.
▶️10 - Revision Requests Tabled at ROS (Possible Vote)
- Discussion on revision requests that have been tabled.
- NPRR1264 is currently at PRS, with Eric Goff looking into an IA for it.
- ERCOT staff posed questions and received some responses from Constellation.
- Consensus to allow the processes to continue in other subcommittees before revisiting.
10.1 - 10.4
- Not discussed
▶️10.5 - NOGRR272, Advanced Grid Support Requirements for Inverter-Based ESRs & PGRR121, Related to NOGRR272, Advanced Grid Support Requirements for Inverter-Based ESRs
- NOGRR272 and PGRR121 were discussed together with NOGRR278.
- Discussion paused to address if there were any additional points on NOGRR272 and PGRR121.
- No further points were raised during this part of the meeting.
▶️11 - NPRR1264, Creation of a New Energy Attribute Certificate Program (Possible Vote)
- It was noted that the NPRR1264 will be observed as it progresses through PRS.
- Emphasis on initiating working group updates following NPRR1264 discussion.
▶️12 - Operations Working Group (OWG)
- Noted to take up NPRR1278 at the next meeting.
▶️12.1 - NPRR1070, Planning Criteria for GTC Exit Solutions (OWG, PLWG) (Possible Vote)
- ERCOT is still working on the rewrite of NPRR1070; the item is tabled at the OWG, but an update is expected soon.
- The 2025 UFLS survey indicates that the number of load set stages will increase from three to five.
- Twenty-five percent of the system load must be equipped with the UFLS.
- Further details can be found in the presentation on the OWG March 20 meeting page.
- There were no additional businesses discussed.
- Joint commenters are working on NPRR1270.
▶️13 - Network Data Support Working Group (NDSWG)
NDSWG-report-to-ROS-20250403x.pdf
▶️13.1 - NPRR1265, Unregistered Distributed Generator (NDSWG) (Possible Vote)
- A meeting took place on 03/18, but not all SMEs were able to attend.
- Further discussion is needed due to the absence of key personnel at the initial meeting.
- Important topics to address include the potential additional burden on TSPs regarding information related to unregistered distributed generation.
- There is concern about the consequences if DSPs fail to provide necessary information.
- Ensuring the quality and integrity of data post-initial information dissemination is a significant issue.
- Requirements for updates on the data need clarification.
▶️13.2 - SCR831, Short Circuit Model Integration (NDSWG, SPWG, SSWG) (Possible Vote)
- SCR831 was discussed focusing on short circuit parameters integration into the operations model.
- ERCOT provided a presentation on SCR831, which was helpful and seen for the first time by the members.
- There is a need for further discussion on the potential additional burdens on the TSP.
- Need for synchronization between operations and planning models and its impact on the SIM upload of operations models was discussed.
- The issue will be revisited in the next NDSWG meeting.
- ICCP handbook and its binding language was noted as an outstanding item, currently out of the hands of the group.
▶️14 - System Protection Working Group (SPWG)
▶️14.1 - SPWG Procedure Manual (Vote)
- No SPWG representatives were present to give the report.
▶️15 - Steady State Working Group (SSWG)
- Current status: Ongoing with 2025 SSWG case build.
- Load and Low topology deadline was 03/28/2025.
- Pre-dispatch tuning meetings took place in Houston.
- Deadlines are on track with a target posting for May 23.
- Meetings will continue in late April at the ERCOT Met Center to finalize cases.
- Encouragement for TSPs to send representatives in person to hybrid meetings to enhance tuning process and case quality.
- Formally referred to as SCR789, discussions are ongoing at a high level.
- Planning to schedule joint meetings with SPWG and DSWG to align on SCR789.
- Upcoming procedure manual updates expected by May or June ROS.
▶️16 - Planning Working Group (PLWG)
Planning-Working-Group-Update_040325.pdf
▶️16.1 - PGRR120, SSO Prevention for Generator Interconnection (PLWG) (DWG) (Possible Vote)
- The item remains tabled at PLWG.
- Awaiting comments from ERCOT.
▶️16.2 - PGRR122, Reliability Performance Criteria for Loss of Load (DWG) (PLWG) (Possible Vote)
- Comments on the LCRA draft were reviewed, and ERCOT proposed some changes.
- The PGRR remains tabled to allow for further discussions among TSPs.
- PGRR122 will be discussed at the upcoming DWG meeting in April as they did not meet in March.
- Bill Blevins presented on NPRR1272 regarding multi-supported privacy private use networks at the PLWG meeting.
- PLWG agreed to table NPRR1272 for further discussion.
- Ongoing discussions between ERCOT and Oxy, the sponsor of NPRR1272, are taking place.
▶️16.3 - PGRR124, ESR Maintenance Exception to Modifications (PLWG, DWG) (Possible Vote)
- The agenda item PGRR124 was tabled and not discussed.
- Tesla was unable to attend the March meeting.
- The item is scheduled for discussion in the April meeting.
▶️17 - Voltage Profile Working Group (VPWG)
- VPWG had a closed meeting on April 3 to discuss NPRR1272.
- Concerns were raised regarding current planning guidelines and regulations about the VSS.
- Request made to formally refer NPRR to VPWG.
- Plans to schedule a follow-up meeting and draft formal comments in the future.
- NPRR1272 was sent to PLWG and VPWG for further action.
▶️18 - Dynamics Working Group (DWG)
20250403_DWG-Report-to-ROS-April-2025.pdf
- Scheduled an upcoming Webex meeting for April 17 to discuss PGRR124 as requested in the March ROS meeting.
- Meeting details are posted on DWG and RS meeting pages and will be sent to the RS mailing list.
- Fahad Qureshi has reached out to Tesla, the sponsor for NPRR124, but has not received a response.
- Requested Tesla representatives to contact Eric Goff for discussion details prior to the meeting.
- Discussion on guidance needed if the sponsor is not present at the meeting; suggestion is to proceed with the discussion despite absence.
▶️19 - Inverter Based Resources Working Group (IBRWG)
IBRWG-Report-to-ROS-040325.pdf
- Discussion on performance issues with battery energy storage systems in WMS systems or territory.
- Curtis Holland addressed tripping events, PFR, AGC coordination issues, oscillation issues, and fires.
- Follow-up discussion on HRL in a single resource versus aggregated value for defined IRR group.
- Acciona and ERCOT to discuss and potentially bring follow-up items to future IBRWG meetings. Differing views on the usefulness of the self-limiting facility concept.
- Short updates provided on grid-forming battery deployment in the UK relevant to advanced grid support.
- Mention of useful resources available in the report.
▶️19.1 - IBRWG Scope (Vote)
IBRWG_Scope_ROS_Approved_20230706.pdf
- Motion to approve the IBRWG scope as revised by ROS added to the combo ballot.
- Review of ROS goals and the IBRWG scope.
- Clarification that all IBRWG meetings are open to the public to avoid confusion.
- Minor changes include removing references to closed sessions and correcting 'task force' to 'working group'.
- Updating language to reflect the technical nature of IBRWG's work, accommodating technical concept referrals.
- ERCOT recommends removing 'as requested' from the scope for clarity and alignment with other working groups.
- Discussions on how referrals work within ROS and its effects on working group responsibilities.
- Consensus to remove 'as requested' from the document and move forward with other changes.
▶️20 - Combo Ballot (Vote) - 12:40 p.m.
- Motion to approve the combined ballot as presented passed unanimously with no abstentions.


▶️21 - Black Start Working Group
- The group reviewed a NOGRR in draft status concerning communication.
- ERCOT is examining the draft NOGRR in more detail and will revisit the topic in the next meeting.
- The next meeting is scheduled for June 25.
▶️22 - Operations Training Working Group (OTWG)
- The presentation was deferred to the next month.
▶️23 - Other Business
▶️23.1 - Review Open Action Items List
- Chris Koenig from Golden Spread suggested removing the action item as they have a path forward.
- Suzy Clifton from ERCOT mentioned the need to confirm with TAC before removing the item.
- The original TAC assignment was related to load shed in real time and connected to a previous Post-Uri recommendation.
- NPRR1238 has now progressed to PRS, and ROS has finished its work on it.
- Confirmation is needed that TAC has completed its review before striking it from the list.
- Nabaraj Pokharel clarified there is no action required from ROS until confirmation is received from TAC.
- Further updates and history will be reported to TAC to avoid confusion regarding NPRR1238.
- The approach is consistent with past actions, where changes are made post-TAC approval.
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